MLiebergot
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Jan 9, 2009, 2:41 PM
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Re: [Scott Brooks] New Zoom H4n
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Just a quick question...
(Scott this isn't really directed to you but anyone who might read this post)
Is everyone using only one audio source for their audio, or multiple sources.
I ask because, everyone should be using multiple sources when ever possible. If for nothing more than to get good consistent audio and have backup.
I'm not saying that you need 5-6 sources, but 2-3 at least. For a ceremony, you should have one one the groom (wireless or recorder), one on lectern (for readings), and one for musicians if needed.
You notice that I didn't mention on camera mic, as this is generally almost always useless.
If you get your audio from different sources, then you can mic your subject closely, thus getting good to great audio.
Then it's a simple matter of mixing in post.
So Scott, why does it matter if you mic lectern with an iRiver or H2?
Is is so hard to sync up the short vocals needed in post, or do you simply sync your start points for a ceremony and then cut as needed?
Yes the Zoom recorders don't hold sync for long periods, but it's not hard to mix audio sources in post as needed, even for long form edits.
Anyone can easily use a grooms mic as the main audio for the entire ceremony, and mix the other audio sources in as needed to create your entire edit.
Or, as you stated, you can just use the H2 or other recorder for recording musicians (which these do fantastic at) and mix in post.
For the reception, it's the total opposite, as you can use your audio recorder for most if not all of your reception edit. Simply layout the all of your main recorder audio first and build your edit around this.
To do this you need only one recorder (board or PA mic) and a wireless (board or PA mic) to your camera. (You can have more if desired, but I wanted to say the easy minimum)
I don't want to sound like I am preaching, but I really think that too much is made of sync with these inexpensive recorders.
As I mentioned earlier I never really ahd issues with the iRivers holding sync either.
But I was maybe the only person in the world who had ALL 6 iRivers fail to be recognized by my computers. As such I was not able to retrieve the info off of the units for each particular event. Also I always hated to ahve to use software to convert and download files to my computer. I much prefer the plug and play, drag and drop method, which many of these new line of SD recorders are setup to do. Much less potential for problems.
It was this that and the quest for better fidelity audio that made me say bye bye to iRivers and seek out better solutions.
Michael
Cameras: (3) Sony FX1, Canon HV20
Audio: Marantz PMD620, Edirol R44, ZoomH4N, ZoomH2, Sennhesier G2
Mics: Rode NT5, Rode NT3, Rode M3, Rode NTG2, Shure SM57, AT822
Software: Sony Vegas, Final Cut Studio
Computer: MAC BABY! MacPro, MacBook Pro
(This post was edited by MLiebergot on Jan 9, 2009, 2:46 PM)
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