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GmElliott
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Jan 20, 2005, 8:56 PM

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In your opinion what is the best DSLR Camera For Wedding Photography...and why?




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Kiwi Sheep
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Jan 20, 2005, 9:31 PM

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I don't think there is one best camera out there. Once you have the right equipment for the job - it all depends on the person holding the camera.

But I believe to do a better job in the wedding industry - you should have at least 35mm camera (and another backup), some fast lenses, and an eye for creativity.
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raider
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Jan 20, 2005, 10:03 PM

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I agree - one could be successful with a pinhole camera if one knows how to use it. I would love to see the reaction on people's faces if I were to run around with a polaroid or a little spy camera being the hired professional.

I'm happy with my rebel dslr.
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GmElliott
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Jan 21, 2005, 7:08 AM

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I'd have to say if there WAS a "best"- it would have to be the full-frame CMOS, 16 megapixel, 1Ds MarkII. Unfortunatly the price is enough to knock the wind out of you.




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raider
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Jan 21, 2005, 9:51 AM

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wasn't it a hasselbad that was either 22 megapixel or $22,000 (or both)!!!
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ChopSueyChris
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Jan 21, 2005, 10:36 AM

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the digtal back for medium format is that much and that many MP's... but you need heavy power supplies and hardwired to a pc to handle the data so it isnt practicle even for model photog or anything probably other than still life studio photog.

the full frame mark2 Glen has IS the best. There is NOTHING that comes close yet.
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GmElliott
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Jan 21, 2005, 11:15 AM

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Chris...um, I don't have the 1Ds. Unsure I have the 1D. The "s" is known for it's full frame and HUGE resolution, the 1D is known for it's AI servo tracking and fast burst for sports shooting. Fastest DSLR on the planet (right now) at 8.5 fps. It practically shoots video! It'll be great for shooting MMA (hint hint) Wink




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ChopSueyChris
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Jan 21, 2005, 11:35 AM

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oh i see glen...


i will call you today while on my shoot about it all it is going good.
btw hansens out with a hand injury, it isnt being reported for another week or so until they confirm this brazillian to fight.


anyhoo... Kiwi, a photo mag compared 200asa kodak film in a eos cam against the mark 2 canon... and when zoomed in to great degrees the digital held up better than the 200asa film of kodak.
So digital is there toa great degree. the lenses are what makes the difference.
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djtoltz
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Jan 21, 2005, 3:44 PM

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I'm don't mean to make a big deal out of this, and this isn't aimed at anyone here, BUT the comparisons that are made of film vs. digital in trade rags (at least all of the ones I've read), are made by scanning the film with a film scanner.

Excuse me, but if you take a pristine, analog format and digitize it through a CCD, at least part of what you see is the limitations of the CCD and the scanner. Try printing your digital photo at 16x20 and comparing the result to a 16x20 print made FROM THE NEGATIVE, and compare the detail, shadow quality, and subtle tonal values.

Again, this isn't aimed at anyone here... just a pet peeve of mine. I was a professional photographer as my first career, back when 35mm quality was considered poor because real pros were shooting medium format or large format. Now 6 mega-pixels at 24 bits per pixel is considered high quality. I apprenticed under a wedding photographer and shot a few weddings on my own, but I worked for a newspaper as a photojournalist for 2 years and did mostly portrait work and scenics outside of that. I can hardly claim to be an expert wedding photographer.

p.s. I scan my 35mm negatives at 12MP, 48 bits/pixel and that is enough that I can generally see the grain of the negative. I would surmise that a decent 35mm negative yields at least 10MP resolution, although pixels aren't everything... there is color depth, image sharpness, etc.

p.p.s. Sorry for the rant.
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ChopSueyChris
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Jan 22, 2005, 1:24 PM

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I'm don't mean to make a big deal out of this, and this isn't aimed at anyone here, BUT the comparisons that are made of film vs. digital in trade rags (at least all of the ones I've read), are made by scanning the film with a film scanner.

Excuse me, but if you take a pristine, analog format and digitize it through a CCD, at least part of what you see is the limitations of the CCD and the scanner. Try printing your digital photo at 16x20 and comparing the result to a 16x20 print made FROM THE NEGATIVE, and compare the detail, shadow quality, and subtle tonal values.

Again, this isn't aimed at anyone here... just a pet peeve of mine. I was a professional photographer as my first career, back when 35mm quality was considered poor because real pros were shooting medium format or large format. Now 6 mega-pixels at 24 bits per pixel is considered high quality. I apprenticed under a wedding photographer and shot a few weddings on my own, but I worked for a newspaper as a photojournalist for 2 years and did mostly portrait work and scenics outside of that. I can hardly claim to be an expert wedding photographer.

p.s. I scan my 35mm negatives at 12MP, 48 bits/pixel and that is enough that I can generally see the grain of the negative. I would surmise that a decent 35mm negative yields at least 10MP resolution, although pixels aren't everything... there is color depth, image sharpness, etc.

p.p.s. Sorry for the rant.



When you put a 35mm neg through a neg scanner such as the nikkon scanner... the difference is huge as compared to a flatbed scanner.
Also when dealing with various films, they all have drawbacks and positives towards what is desired/needed for each shoot. that is why we have many iso speed films, colour varients such as Kodak has nc,vc, and uc films... But the rag mags as you call them, put the iso's and the same light exposures, canon lenses etc to compare each to. As a comparison, Ive worked with Fuji 400 medium and 35mm fils... the 35 lacks dramatically compared to the big brother of it's same style of film. Where as the kodak vc 35 and medium format films are almost identical in properties relating to colour ranges, exposure and grain detail.
I could go on and on. Also it ISNT the MP of a cam, it is the programs that make it work. Ex, the 4 megapixel Nikkon Sport cams ex the D1 ad the D1s which I believe are 4.1 mp cams blow away any other 4.1 mg cams as well as many 6+mp cams, those cams are also used to blow up pics to huge sizes as well as for mag and print work. SO there are lots of factors towards bringing forth your final product with your camera.
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Waldemar
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Jan 25, 2005, 7:48 AM

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All of the photographers I work with use Nikons.
G5 1.8. Final Cut/QT Pro/iMovie/Still Life. GL1. XL1-s


ChopSueyChris
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Jan 25, 2005, 10:20 AM

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Because they invested 1000's on lenses for nikon 35mm cams before they went digital?
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Waldemar
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Jan 25, 2005, 12:39 PM

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Probably. They sure sing praises for their cameras.
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ChopSueyChris
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Jan 25, 2005, 1:20 PM

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That is why my boss went with the finepix s2 and s3 now.. they used his nikkon lenses especially the 4-5000 he spent 3 years ago on the high end lenses.

the camera itself isnt hard to jump from but the lenses suck ass to get rid of in favor of anew rig.

you gotta find what works right for you, learn it, stick to it and love it. It's apples and oranges..both are fruit but pick your fav and stick to it... if you can afford it eat both!
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mjeppsen
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Jan 25, 2005, 1:26 PM

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It's apples and oranges..

Hmm, you mean like this? http://www.improb.com/.../air-1-3-apples.html
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Storm Crow
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It's apples and oranges..

Hmm, you mean like this? http://www.improb.com/.../air-1-3-apples.html
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Kiwi Sheep
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Jan 25, 2005, 2:41 PM

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Also, have you noticed in the movies? when there are photographers in the scene the cameras that they used are Nikons. I wonder why?

To me, the best digital DSLR camera is made by Nikon. It seems Hollywood agrees with me. WinkSlyCool
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ChopSueyChris
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Jan 25, 2005, 3:51 PM

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Product placement.

just like seeing COKE in all of NBC's shows hidden in the fridges etc.

Also I "THINK" Nikons since back in the days of the workhorse F4 camers which were king years back, were the 35mm cams to use, they shot 4 fps!!!! all mechanical no juice needed.

Just like years back when people didn't want to switch from Ikegamis to any other cameras for ENG, took SONY a while to be viewed as a serious camera maker as well.
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GmElliott
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Jan 26, 2005, 6:43 AM

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If you guys are big on what everyone else uses- just look at the sidelines of any NFL football game- or the paparazzi hordes at hollywood red-carpet premieres. See all the "white" lenses....all Canon.

Not that Nikon makes a "bad" product but I don't know ANYONE who's starting out who'd rather go Nikon than Canon. They are constantly 1 up on Nikon. Just compare their competitive models....D2H 5fps @ 4 megapixels. 1D mkII 8.5 fps @ 8.2 megapixels. The new D2X STILL won't be able to compete with the full frame 1Ds mkII- full frame 16 megapixels!




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Kiwi Sheep
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Jan 26, 2005, 10:44 AM

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D2H 5fps @ 4 megapixels. 1D mkII 8.5 fps @ 8.2 megapixels. The new D2X STILL won't be able to compete with the full frame 1Ds mkII- full frame 16 megapixels!


Here is what I know.

The D2H was not built to compete with the 1D mkII 8.5fps.

The coming D2x 12mps 8.5fps is going to compete directly with the 1D mkII 8.2 mps 8.5fps at the same price point.

The D2X is not designed to compete with the 1Ds mkII full frame 16mps.

I know Canon is always ahead in terms of releasing a new product every year but Nikon has a different strategy. After spending $5000, would you like to feel cheated when your new camera becomes obsolete after a year because a new product has come out? I know how that feels in terms of my pc purchases.

The only way to get out that feeling is to go for a film body. The last pro-film body from Nikon is the F6 - will definitely be good for years and years to come.

I am not for the latest and greatest. I just want to take a nicely composed and properly exposed image of a beautiful scene during a wedding day.
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(This post was edited by Kiwi Sheep on Jan 26, 2005, 11:30 AM)


scotthayes
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Kiwi, how old is your D100 and are you having any hot pixel issues with it?






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Kiwi Sheep
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Kiwi, how old is your D100 and are you having any hot pixel issues with it?


Yeah, I'm having hot pixels (or some say stuck pixels). My D100 is 2 yrs old. About 6 of them spread across the CCD. I hate to go edit each picture everytime. I think I will have to send it to Nikon. If the repair cost is almost the same as a D70... then common sense will prevail.
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scotthayes
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argh! mine has about 4-5. I can't see them in 4x6 prints. I have been told that Nikon will repair it for free possibly (remap). I may be sending mine in soon. As soon as I get the problem with my 18-35 fixed.






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GmElliott
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D2H 5fps @ 4 megapixels. 1D mkII 8.5 fps @ 8.2 megapixels. The new D2X STILL won't be able to compete with the full frame 1Ds mkII- full frame 16 megapixels!


Here is what I know.

The D2H was not built to compete with the 1D mkII 8.5fps.

The coming D2x 12mps 8.5fps is going to compete directly with the 1D mkII 8.2 mps 8.5fps at the same price point.

The D2X is not designed to compete with the 1Ds mkII full frame 16mps.

I know Canon is always ahead in terms of releasing a new product every year but Nikon has a different strategy. After spending $5000, would you like to feel cheated when your new camera becomes obsolete after a year because a new product has come out? I know how that feels in terms of my pc purchases.

The only way to get out that feeling is to go for a film body. The last pro-film body from Nikon is the F6 - will definitely be good for years and years to come.

I am not for the latest and greatest. I just want to take a nicely composed and properly exposed image of a beautiful scene during a wedding day.



My understanding was:

D1X- flagship high res DSLR body (ie Canon 1Ds and 1Ds mkII)

D2H- flagship sports shooting or (speed) performance DSLR body (ie 1D, 1D mkII)


Btw, the D2X cannot shot 8.5 fps at full res. In order to shoot that fast it has to crop the image to a lower res. Crazy




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ChopSueyChris
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I know Canon is always ahead in terms of releasing a new product every year but Nikon has a different strategy. After spending $5000, would you like to feel cheated when your new camera becomes obsolete after a year because a new product has come out? I know how that feels in terms of my pc purchases.

The only way to get out that feeling is to go for a film body. The last pro-film body from Nikon is the F6 - will definitely be good for years and years to come.

I am not for the latest and greatest. I just want to take a nicely composed and properly exposed image of a beautiful scene during a wedding day.


AHEM....

Let's see.
The D1 came out what 4 years ago?
The D1x a year ago? AS WELL AS the d1xs was it?

THEN you have Nikkon who with FUJI released the dslr S1 FINEPIX! It was Nikkon lenses, Nikkon f100 body case, and technology from both Nikkon and Fujji. That was 3 years ago?
Then Fuji/Nikkon released the S2 2 years ago.... and now the S3 in November....
Nikkon now themselves has released a faulty D100 18 months to 2 years ago? AND this past spring released the d70? AND NOW in 3 months is releasing the upgrade to the D70?

Nikkon is just as guilty if not moreso than Canon is of these yearly upgrades.


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