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KevinShaw
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Nov 18, 2009, 9:00 PM

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I'm watching the latest episode of "Mythbusters" and saw a DSLR strapped to the dashboard of a stunt car, pointed out the windshield at Jamie clinging to the hood. No way to know for sure whether they were using it in video mode, but it kinda looked that way. Is there anyone NOT using these cameras for video?


Brackish
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Nov 18, 2009, 9:17 PM

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saw a DSLR strapped to the dashboard ... Is there anyone NOT using these cameras for video?
Yeah: 99% of wedding photogs. LaughLaughLaugh



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KevinShaw
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Nov 18, 2009, 9:22 PM

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saw a DSLR strapped to the dashboard ... Is there anyone NOT using these cameras for video?
Yeah: 99% of wedding photogs. LaughLaughLaugh

99...98...97...96... Tongue


Scott S
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Nov 19, 2009, 12:01 AM

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100% of brackish...Tongue


Brian MacKenzie
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Nov 19, 2009, 1:58 AM

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ha ha, i read the subject line and thought 'how are they going to myth bust it?'

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KevinShaw
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Nov 19, 2009, 6:47 AM

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ha ha, i read the subject line and thought 'how are they going to myth bust it?'

Ha, good one! Maybe they'll hire Brackish to run a DSLR for several hours in desert heat while whip-panning the camera back and forth with hundreds of photographer flashes going off - that should prove DSLR/CMOS cameras aren't useful for professional video!

Cool


Brackish
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Nov 19, 2009, 2:08 PM

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Is there anyone NOT using these cameras for video?
And I'll add to that: 95% of videogs are not using DSLRs for video.
The videogs who sit around here in this University looking for
techniques to improve their business make up about .00001% of
the working videogs out there. The VAST majority of working
videogs never bother to look at online forums nor do they
participate in any PVAs.



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fr0gm@n
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Nov 19, 2009, 2:30 PM

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The VAST majority of working
videogs never bother to look at online forums nor do they
participate in any PVAs.

And those many of those are the videogs that are still shooting crap and delivering crap. Most of those never continue their education and keep doing the same old same old. Do really think that dude with the off road cart and flood light Darrell showed recently ever attended a convention, PVA or online forum?

Brack at least you hang out here and learn so I can't call you one of those...well we think you learn and contribute sometimes. That is worth something. You would learn so much more and have a blast if you showed up at a WEVA sometime or even a one day video summit....of course no one would know who you are so how do we know you haven't been attending. I treat VU and conferences and summits as my continuing education. I don't think I have ever been to a conference or summit without bringing an idea or concept home and improving my business.

We went to the Jeff Wright class in Chicago back in July on Cinematic shooting techniques. We learned techniques to make a bridal spotlight with a little edge to it. We came home, got a model and made our own shot right her in our little town of 12,000 people. Because we learned about that and made one we have now sold one for next year. Guess that learning investment paid off.

Just like information technology you have to keep learning and evolving to stay ahead in this business.


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FaithPoison
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Nov 19, 2009, 2:41 PM

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Is there anyone NOT using these cameras for video?
And I'll add to that: 95% of videogs are not using DSLRs for video.
The videogs who sit around here in this University looking for
techniques to improve their business make up about .00001% of
the working videogs out there. The VAST majority of working
videogs never bother to look at online forums nor do they
participate in any PVAs.


Don't you remember such great VU and VU'er blog posts like:

1. If you don't start shooing in HD you'll be out of business in 1 year. (Wasn't that like 5 years ago?Laugh)
2. If you don't start start bloggin' you'll be out of business in 1 year.
3. If you don't team up with a good photographer to get your bookings, you'll be out of business in 1 year.
4. If you don't start twitterin' you'll be out of business in 1 year.

Now I'm sure there some blogs out there say this about shooting with the 5/7D. Laugh



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Brackish
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Nov 20, 2009, 12:43 AM

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Don't you remember such great VU and VU'er blog posts like:

1. If you don't start shooting in HD you'll be out of business in 1 year. (Wasn't that like 5 years ago?Laugh)
Laugh Yeah, it was about 5 years back. The way I remember it was that he/she said "If your business isn't HD in 2 years you'll be out of business". LaughLaughLaugh
As I recall, the person who made that assertion was also selling training
materials which would teach you how to shoot HD.



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Brackish
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Nov 20, 2009, 6:03 AM

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saw a DSLR strapped to the dashboard ... Is there anyone NOT using these cameras for video?
Yeah: 99% of wedding photogs. LaughLaughLaugh

99...98...97...96... Tongue
Funny, funny. Are you the new "Fusionista" around here to
take up the torch now that all the rest seem to have dropped out
as their dire gloom-and-doom predictions have come to nothing? Wink



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Bob A
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Nov 20, 2009, 6:15 AM

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Ya I think it was Julie Hill and Ron Dawson issuing dire warnings about your demise if you went cool/current enough. SmileSmileSmileSmile


KevinShaw
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Nov 20, 2009, 6:34 AM

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Funny, funny. Are you the new "Fusionista" around here to
take up the torch now that all the rest seem to have dropped out
as their dire gloom-and-doom predictions have come to nothing? Wink

I think the ones who have already bought DSLRs have gotten too busy trying to process their video footage to talk about it, so sure I'll carry the torch for a while. Cool

Prediction for 2010: if you aren't shooting in HD using a DSLR and posting your videos on Facebook with a live blog discussion, you will be infested with the fleas from a thousand camels!


Kenneth
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Nov 20, 2009, 4:40 PM

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Is there anyone NOT using these cameras for video?
Yes, anyone who believes it's more important to maximize the ROI of the equipment than to try and impress the hoards of videographers who jump on the latest bandwagon.



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KevinShaw
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Nov 21, 2009, 3:07 PM

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Is there anyone NOT using these cameras for video?
Yes, anyone who believes it's more important to maximize the ROI of the equipment than to try and impress the hoards of videographers who jump on the latest bandwagon.

So Mythbusters is trying to impress videographers? Cool. Wink


Brackish
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Nov 22, 2009, 12:49 AM

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I'll carry the torch for a while.

Prediction for 2010: if you aren't shooting in HD using a DSLR and posting your videos on Facebook with a live blog discussion
LaughLaugh

Well I guess, then, we won't be seeing you around the campus here
much in 2011.

Think about it ...

That person who said 5 years ago that "in 2 years you'll be out of
business if you're not shooting HD" ... it was about 2 years after
that statement was made - when it became patently obvious that the
statement was absurd - well, that person didn't come around here
much anymore. Now ... maybe it was just a coincidence. I'm not
saying there was any cause and effect there. Just saying I did
notice that, at about the time the 2 years mark rolled around, this
person was pretty scarce when you wanted to approach him/her
in the hallway and ask him/her about "the prediction".



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FaithPoison
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Nov 24, 2009, 10:23 AM

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Last night while flipping channels, I saw the end of some car race, and they were interviewing the winner...crowded by all sorts of cameramen.

There was a woman behind him, shooting handheld with a Cannon 5D or 7D...with a shotgun mic on top and a loupe attached to the back of it. Watching her shoot, I can only imagine how shakey/jello-y/out of focus that video must have been.

Considering the amazing video quality the 5D/7D is capable of, I'm seeing some of the worst videos ever. I think it's the whole idea of getting to use the same camera as a photographer, and thinking you have the same luxury of just holding it up to your face without any stabilization. Fine for home videos...but if you're getting paid?

I mean, they sell monopod's down at Target for only $15, for those that still want shakey video but don't want to make everyone sea-sick...there's no excuse. Tongue



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Kenneth
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Nov 24, 2009, 5:47 PM

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I love the images from the 5 and 7D's, and I am considering getting them for next season. I've been studying a lot of movies lately so that I have an idea of what I want to do with them.

Besides the obvious issues with them, the rolling shutter and the jello, I think one user invoked side effect is the rack focus, or just the general out to in focus thing that we are seeing in every shot of every single video. To me this is the latest in cheesy wedding video. How long will it take for brides to stop asking for that, just like they stopped asking for the fluffy white borders?

It just seems kind of strange that now that people can make images that rival motion pictures they don't want to shoot more like a motion picture.

Am I the only one seeing this craze?



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Dave Williams
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Nov 24, 2009, 7:24 PM

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Considering the amazing video quality the 5D/7D is capable of, I'm seeing some of the worst videos ever.
If it was easy, everyone would be doing it. Thank God for evolving and ever complicated technology!


(This post was edited by Dave Williams on Nov 24, 2009, 9:10 PM)


FaithPoison
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Considering the amazing video quality the 5D/7D is capable of, I'm seeing some of the worst videos ever.
If it was easy, everyone would be doing it. Thanks god for evolving and ever complicated technology!

Man, I agree 100% there. That's a great way to look at it.

Kinda like HD cams in general. Even how a small sensor 1/3" HD cam makes a better SD DVD than a SD camera in the hands of anyone, but when you make a Blu-Ray DVD, it seriously brings out the worst of your shooting skills. The more people that get huge HD flat panel TV's, the more it counteracts the paranoia on the internet forums about Uncle Charlies/fly-by-night would-be videographers snatching up your business because they can get hi-rez cameras on the cheap.

Let alone the 5D/7D, even the little GH1 brings out the very slightest flaws in your shooting skills. When I moved to my new apartment, I got a new 46" LCD Sceptre 1080p TV, and when watching one of my videos on Blu-Ray (or even SD DVD), it doesn't cut you a freaking bit of slack like SD TV's did. Out of focus shots on an FX1 that looked fine on SD TV, now look "not good". With the GH1...they just look terrible. Focus and stability, let alone color, rear their ugly head, on the "big screen" TV's.

I think it really "un-levels" the playing field, which is a good thing. Cool



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Kenneth
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Nov 24, 2009, 11:56 PM

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I'm probably going to just skip the 5D and go straight for the 1D mark IV. With the increased ISO sensitivity I should be able to slap one of those big zoom lenses on and still get a bright image despite the lens having a high f stop.



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Brackish
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Nov 25, 2009, 11:54 PM

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I'm probably going to just skip the 5D and go straight for the 1D mark IV. With the increased ISO sensitivity ...
Congrats, man. That's one handsome looking camera. When they see
you come with that, they'll KNOW you mean business.

You know ... A Professional camera like that has the dual flash card

slots which allows, when one is shooting stills, that you can have

a duplicate backup right there for you in the cam, in case one of

the cards goes bad. I was hoping this would allow for backing

up of video as well but, unfortunately, it won't work that way. Frown





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Brackish
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Nov 26, 2009, 2:03 AM

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I did run across this intriguing "1Dmk4 run and gun rig" that's got
a Beachtek screwed into the bottom for sound and two Senn
wireless coming in. I think the guy said he's using one lav mic and
one boomed mic for the sound. Seemed like he's mostly shooting
handheld with this rig.

I think the Beachtek was a customization of the one designed for

the 5D.

Anyone heard if the mk4 will have manual audio gain control?

Or only auto audio gain?





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Dave Williams
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Nov 26, 2009, 11:31 AM

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Do I sense you finally going DSLR?


GmElliott
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Do I sense you finally going DSLR?
Pigs will fly first....then again, Kevin Shaw just got one. I was blind-sided by that one.




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